When you’re a newly minted fashion icon, you can’t just show up to the Late Show with Stephen Colbert in any old rags.

“There’s an expectation,” Pose star, red carpet goddess, and Queerty Pride50 honoree Billy Porter told Colbert, “so I have to dress appropriately.”

Decked in gold, Porter talked Colbert through some of his iconic fashion moments of late.

He also had this to say about clothing and gender, and we’d all be wise to perk up our ears:

Watch the full interview below:

Dan Tracer is a queer writer, noisemaker, and amateur astral projector. Find him on Instagram.

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