"both sides" to which JVN responded with several well-researched points. Dax's point of view has been widely discussed as "harmful" to the trans community because of how his arguments were steeped in misinformation about trans youth and further pushing forward an anti-trans agenda. At the point where Dax finally acknowledged that he shouldn't have put JVN in this position, JVN responded by tearing up and saying, "I wanted to come chat about my podcast.